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pro 13, 2008, 5:29pm (nahoru)Zpráva č. 1: spaceninjabrat

Does anyone know a way to learn french so you remember it well? I tried to learn it and I always forgot the stuff. Anyone know the secret? 0.0

pro 13, 2008, 7:16pm (nahoru)Zpráva č. 2: Mr.Durick

Go to France, Quebec, or Tahiti. Fall in love with a French person. Read French with a monolingual dictionary. Watch French teevee and movies.

Bear in mind, you will never please a French person with your pronunciation.

Robert

čer 2, 2009, 12:26pm (nahoru)Zpráva č. 3: DanielChilds

Dear GOD, I don't think I will ever learn to understand spoken French well!

čer 3, 2009, 12:55am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 4: thorold

Understanding isn't hard, if you take rdurick's advice and immerse yourself. What worked for me was working in an office where French was the main everyday language. It's amazing how quickly you can go from school/holiday basics to understanding the way people actually talk in those circumstances. Making yourself understood might take a bit longer.

čer 3, 2009, 1:13am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 5: timspalding

Quick ways:

1. Girlfriend
2. French Foreign Legion
3. Put yourself in a sealed tank, slowly filling with water, with your arms shackled together, a French dictionary and a copy of Houdini's biography, in French.

čer 3, 2009, 10:57am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 6: thorold

>5.3 ...slowly filling with vin ordinaire, surely! Do you get the choice of a girlfriend or Legionnaire to turn the pages for you?

čer 3, 2009, 11:45am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 7: jcbrunner

>5 Where does this recent US fascination with drowning come from? I wouldn't go with the Legionnaire option either (unless you aspire to a thick Eastern European accent), as they are by definition not native speakers ...

Song, however, is an easy way to learn a language (and correct pronunciation). Johnny Hallyday & co. have covered most 70'ies and 80'ies songs. Severe Retro Warning.

Poetry is another choice. Youtube has a number of easy but elegant Jacques Prevert poems.

čer 4, 2009, 4:36am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 8: thorold

...or you could try the Navy

čer 5, 2009, 4:10am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 9: hnau

Use librarything.fr.

Regarding French TV and movies: use subtitles (the French ones). It might take some time to get used to, but it's a good way to learn new vocabulary - or to understand that Scottish strange accent. (I'm German, and I watch British TV to improve my English skills.)

říj 9, 2009, 1:27pm (nahoru)Zpráva č. 10: varielle

Maybe this is the place to ask this question. It seems that in a number of French movies about modern times made since around the mid 90s there is always a joke about tax dodging. Usually, it involves hiding property, i.e. art work and other expensive things. What's the deal with the French tax system that makes this so funny to them?

říj 30, 2009, 4:13am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 11: seajewel

Wow, what a helpful topic.... I'd love to learn French!

>9:
Can you recommend any French subtitled movies or TV shows?

I think I will also try >7 idea of Jacques Prevert poems on youtube.

=)

říj 30, 2009, 9:17am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 12: hnau

Sorry, I've abandoned French after 10th grade, and I'm learning English at the moment.

Do you live in Europe? Maybe you can receive some French channels via satellite, mostly on Atlantic Bird 3 (5.0W), see also en.kingofsat.net. Unfortunately, I don't know which channels provide subtitles.

Regarding DVDs, not all editions of the same film have the same languages. You might have to buy foreign editions (and make sure your player accepts DVDs of that region).

říj 30, 2009, 3:02pm (nahoru)Zpráva č. 13: varielle

>11 seajewel, I loved the movies Amelie and A Very Long Engagement.

lis 6, 2009, 6:24am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 14: hnau

Try documentaries, these are easier to understand. Maybe La marche de l’empereur (March of the Penguins).

lis 6, 2009, 8:39pm (nahoru)Zpráva č. 15: K.J.

To parles francais, you will either have to commit to learning it, or move to France and be forced to go to the store on a daily basis, to procure your food. There is no easy way to speak the language or any other language. If you love it, study it, and make a commitment. Watching movies will not teach you a language.

French is a language in which the words are phonetically sounded linked: 'Je suis American,' can sound like: jasweezamerikan. At which point can you separate the words, when listening to the speaker, so as to ascertain the meaning of the statement? In English, it is 'I am American,' and the words are distinctly separate.

10> There is a luxury tax, and you also pay an annual tax on where you live, depending on the location within the country. It is called fonciere, and/or tax d’habitation. In Deutschland, the sales tax is currently 19% and the income tax is close to 51% for many. It is not inexpensive to live in Europe.

Zpráva editována jejím autorem, lis 6, 2009, 8:43pm.

lis 6, 2009, 9:03pm (nahoru)Zpráva č. 16: jjwilson61

In English, it is 'I am American,' and the words are distinctly separate.

Not really. That would be pronounced something like Iyamamerican.

lis 7, 2009, 4:43am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 17: hnau

#15 Watching movies will not teach you a language.

You need at least basic knowledge. Then books and movies can help to improve your language skills. It works for me.

Of course, going to France would be much better.

lis 7, 2009, 5:52am (nahoru)Zpráva č. 18: Booksloth

Pretty much what K.J. said about commitment. The only time language learning is 'easy' is if you start when you are about a year old. Even then, it takes several years to pick up a decent vocabulary. Living in the chosen country is obviously the most thorough way but that option isn't usually open to most people (except for those fortunate one-year-olds who were born there). Holidays there can give you much-needed opportunities to practise but there is no substitute for getting those books/CDs etc out every day and working, working, working. Different methods suit different people and one that I am finding more enjoyable than most is the Rosetta Stone method (www.rosettastone.com) but even then, I am combining that (for Greek, not French) with around 5 years of classes, 4 years of one-to-one tuition and various books and tapes. Language learning never ends (as you will have noticed if you ever use a dictionary to check unfamiliar words in your own language) but the benefits are huge and it can be great fun. The important thing is to find the method that suits you and stick to it.

lis 7, 2009, 12:44pm (nahoru)Zpráva č. 19: K.J.

16> Not when pronounced correctly.

Je suis American, when pronounced properly, ties the Je to suis like Jes. It rolls the vowel into the consonant and suis rolls into American, the same way: samerican. This is what I mean when I say that it 'phonetically sounds linked.' I am American, because of the pronunciation, does not have the same characteristic.

Zpráva editována jejím autorem, lis 7, 2009, 12:48pm.

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